About the Sine Terra video installation (variations in minor mode), by José Carlos Teixeira, the Museu Nacional Soares dos Reis brings together Maria de Fátima Lambert and Hugo Monteiro, researchers from the Escola Superior de Educação of the Instituto Politécnico do Porto, for a conversation, and the artist himself to talk about Soares dos Reis and the exile in own home, as well as the themes of exile, refuge and immigration that José Carlos Teixeira has been reflecting on in his work.